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  • historicalzg - 1Reply
    X-Posted Question from AAA/Tucson Productions Album:

    http://historicalzg.piwigo.com/index?/category/161-california_albert_arthur_allen_tuscan_productions_vlad

    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 1, '10, edited on Jun 1, '10
    Thanks, Jane and Woody.

    Woody, what do you think about the connection between Triart Photo Studios, Tuscan Productions and James Pondelicek?
  • historicalzg - 1Reply
    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 1, '10
    SPCo
    Triart Photo Studios (Triart Pub Co Inc)
    Tuscan Productions (Red Bluff, Ca)
    Were they the publishers for an unknown photographer (perhaps James W Pondelicek)?

    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 2, '10
    "I think they also look like some of Allen's Alo studies, some of Hesser's photos, Nichols, and Charles Cook."

    I never saw that ANichols or AAAllen used Dionysiac motives and scenes (satyrs, maenads, etc) in their works.
    Hesser... Yes, but this exalted motive as a dominant element never prevailed in his art. He preferred the complete nudity over the drapery.


    woody2662 wrote on Jun 2, '10
    Vlad,

    Although the photos are similar in nature I think it would be hard to make that connection. I think they also look like some of Allen's Alo studies, some of Hesser's photos, Nichols, and Charles Cook. You might be absolutely correct but I don't think there's enough information yet to make the connection. The nature of the photographs, to me, reflect a style of photography rather than an individual photographer.

    Woody


    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 3, '10
    “I am fairly certain that contact card "Unknown_Tuscan Productions (Red Bluff, Ca)_000b" looks to be French...”
    Thanks. French postcards are little known to me.


    woody2662 wrote on Jun 2, '10, edited on Jun 2, '10
    Vlad,

    I think it more probable that Tuscan sold or contracted to sell photographs by different artists or companies. I compared them to the other ones you posted. These really don't seem to go with most of the other ones. I am fairly certain that contact card "Unknown_Tuscan Productions (Red Bluff, Ca)_000b" looks to be French, I say this because of the similar backdrop to many of the BV company postcards. To be specific the Backdrop for BV 060 among others matches the backdrop for the last 4 photograps on the contact card.

    You have much more expertise than I do with various photographers. What you are saying could be exactly right. I just need more information to be convinced that there is more of a connection besides Triart and Tuscan selling the same photograph.

    Woody

    woody2662 wrote on Jun 2, '10
    Vlad,

    On a different note, do you know who the A.A.B. Co NY is?

    gilesnemeton wrote on Jun 3, '10
    SPCo is the Shaw Publishing Company of Boston. Run by Henry Shaw. There is some evidence that he sometimes published other photographers pictures for them. His work is stylistically similiar to Aurora Studios and occasionally approaches the quality of Albert Arthur Allen.

    john

    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 3, '10
    "There is some evidence that he sometimes published other photographers pictures for them."
    Irwin H Herbein, as far as I know.

    gilesnemeton wrote on Jun 4, '10
    Yes Herbein was the case I refered to, but after perusing info on the web---i believe that Herbein was not a photographer but a 'collector' and like many collectors he signed his name on the backs of his collection---all of the photos in question bear copyrights by Shaw which would seem to uphold my idea about Irwin H Herbein being not a photographer but a collector. I have not been able to find any mention of Irwin H Herbein being employed as a photographer or in a studio anywhere. If anyone has any definite info eitherway I would enjoy hearing from them.

    john

    ohikkoshi wrote on Jun 5, '10
    “Irwin H. Heirbein Jr / Reading, Ca, 1920”

    “Irvin Herbein. Elm street, brought back from Philadelphia his 11-year-old son James, who was picked up in that city by the police.”
    Reading Eagle, 19 October 1914

    “Newcomer, Fleetwood, stitchery; Dorothy Kalbach, Wernersville, block -printing, and Irvin Herbein, Reading, pyrography.”
    Reading Eagle, 6 August 1952

    “Irvin H Herbein, a chip carver and Pyrographic decorator will demonstrate.”
    Reading Eagle, 20 1966

    Irwin H. Heirbein is never mentioned as a photographer.

    ziegfeldgrrl wrote on Jun 4, '10
    vlad, here is one I just came across that I don't see posted (which doesn't mean it isn't):

    Summer Symphony no 37 1911 (Pearl Lloyd)_Pondelicek:

    http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8373/summersymphonyno371911p.jpg
    [NOTE: Ref'd pic added at end of album. jane]

James W Pondelicek? SPCo, Triart Studios, Tuscan Productions    Jun 1, '10 11:43 PM
by Vlad for group historicalziegfeld #423


SPCo
Triart Photo Studios (Triart Pub Co Inc)
Tuscan Productions (Red Bluff, Ca)
Were they the publishers for an unknown photographer (perhaps James W Pondelicek)?

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