1909 ZF Follies & "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" - Fact or Fiction?_jane (Resolved)
by jane for group historicalziegfeld Jan 3, 2011
Jan 3, 2011: Despite what the Encyclopedia Brittanica says this song wasn't introduced in the ZF Follies of 1909 or in any ZF Follies show.
I've added info from an excellent book on baseball by McGuiggan and Veeck who did wonderful research on just this question.
Apparently it's almost impossible to figure out which came first in 1908: Cohan's Take My Girl To The Ball Game or Norworth and Von Tilzer's Take Me Out To The Ball Game.
Norworth's memory of writing it was flawed and like so many things here it's still shrouded in mystery.
An interested read and recommended. Anyone who can make base ball interesting to me is doing great :)
Also added a few of the covers for other baseball songs of the times mentioned in their book.
The sheet music is from the Indiana Consortium which has tons of great vintage sheet music (full booklets) available for download in .pdf format:
Jul 15, 2010: About a week ago I posted info that this "Greatest Hit" was introduced in the Ziegfeld Follies of 1909. And then I wasn't so sure...
The Encyclopedia Brittanica says it was introduced in the Winter Edition of the 1909 Follies and was sung by Nora Bayes.
Typically songs song in the Follies or other Ziegfeld shows has that written somewhere on the Sheet Music cover. I can only find the two covers I've posted here. One has Sam Williams singing it and the other shows Nora Bayes but nothing about it being sung in the Follies.
From sheet music I've found, what appears to have been sung for the baseball scene in that show was "Come On, Play Ball With Me Dearie" (Lillian Lorraine).
I don't have the program for the 1909 Follies (any edition). Does anyone know if this song actually was introduced in the winter edition of the 1909 Ziegfeld Follies or if it is "said to be" that it was. There are so many myths and legends out there that it is hard to know what is true without the actual theatre programs.